Diana wrote:

> The MOQ doesn't assert that the MOQ is the truth. It just asserts that
> it's a good intellectual pattern.

What�s your point? The MOQ asserts that �Truth is a static intellectual 
pattern within a larger entity called Quality.� (Lila, Chp. 29). Surely Pirsig 
thinks the MPQ is true, i.e., a static intellectual pattern, and a good one at 
that.

My point was that having made the assertion that truth is a good intellectual 
pattern, the question can be asked, �Is that assertion true?� suggesting as 
Peter Lennox pointed out that an �overall truth without edges or limits� exists 
as a necessary but unprovable postulate to logical thought. 

Looks to me like truth as an intellectual pattern is also within a larger 
(unpatterned) entity called Truth which in turn is subsumed under Quality. 
The ancient philosophic trinity of �Beauty, Goodness and Truth� becomes in 
the MOQ the genus �Goodness� with Beauty and Truth subordinated as 
species. 

The existence of an overall, unpatterned Truth without limits also suggests 
that knowledge is not limited to logic and facts but that we innately possess 
a higher form of understanding. Our innate, visceral response to Quality 
suggests a similar intimate knowledge of something so much a part of us 
(reality) that we cannot put it into words.

Platt




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