In a message dated 3/19/00 4:44:37 PM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> ROGER:
>  Actually, we have discussed this issue (truth vs Good) so exhaustively 
that 
>  many of us have nothing new to add.  It is a central tenet of the MOQ with 
>  which many of us are quite comfortable.  Science and metaphysics and the 
>  intellect in general are rooted in division, distinction and duality which 
>  can never accurately represent dynamic, flowing reality

JON:
I've always liked that old quote: "You never step in the same river twice."

ROGER:
Science and truth are a very high quality.  But again, as Godel, Heisenberg, 
Bohr, Shroedinger and Whitehead came to realize, the intellect's inherent 
subject/object duality distorts, deletes, divides, and omits much of the 
reality it attempts to understand. The world of science/intellect (and of 
this forum) is in the end, both incomplete and uncertain

JON:
What troubles me, Roger, is that many scientists absolutely 100% refuse to 
belief in anything that can't be "proven" to exist. Certainly you have 
encountered this type of person before? They generally have no use for 
philosophy or metaphysics. 

Do you think that there is any aspect of reality that will *never* be 
detectable by science? I do. I think this is where the main division is.

Jon


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