Roger, Bo, Struan, Peter, Platt and Y'all: Chapter 12 of Lila is only about 8 pages long and it addresses the mind/matter issue directly. You'll see that the whole transition from SOM to the MOQ hinges on "substance" and the flawed intellectual frameword that surrounds it. There is some smart conversation going on here, but I think you've really got to focus in on that or this vicious cycle will only go on and on forever. And for goodness sake, please remember that even inorganic patterns have experience too. This ain't just about human perceptions. All four levels are involved here. James was no physicist and Bohr was not a psychologist, but Pirsig doesn't mind and the difference hardly matters. You know? DMB MOQ.ORG - http://www.moq.org Mail Archive - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/ MD Queries - [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from moq_discuss follow the instructions at: http://www.moq.org/md/subscribe.html
