Hi Jonathan and MD

On 3 May 2000, at 9:53, Jonathan Marder wrote:

> I found a new article that I consider a "must read" to anyone who participated
> or took interest in the "Random Patterns" thread, or who was interested in my
> own article "The End of Causality" (available at
> http://www.moq.org/forum/jonathanmarder1.html or
> http://agri3.huji.ac.il/~marder/Science_Philosophy/Causality.htm )
> 
> The new article deals with Darwinism, theology, order and
> chaos etc.
> Details:
> God After Darwin
> Beyond Materialism and "Intelligent Design"
> by John F. Haught
> http://www.biomednet.com/hmsbeagle/77/viewpts/op_ed

Well, I went and got my own copy and on first reading it looks very much like another 
creationist argument in different clothing. It doesn't appear to be the standard 
"...if we can 
only rubbish science and Darwinism sufficiently then the only other choice is God and 
Creation..."  garbage but there is still a very strong element of the teleological 
argument 
involved which I just don't buy.
The earlier part of the paper looked promising in that it appeared to accept some of 
the ideas 
that Roger and myself have been banging on about for some time now - autopoesis - but 
this 
doesn't seem to be continued later in the paper.

Anyway, I'll bugger off and have another good read of it and let some other folk say a 
few 
words before I come back for another go.


Horse


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