JON wrote: >We need to differentiate between the unknown and the unknowable. > Mysticism underpins everything with the unknowable. Rational philosophy > (as we know it) assumes that the unknown may be explored and uncovered > ad infinitum, even if it remains a bottomless pit. > PETER responded: Ah! this is the crux of it: the rational way behaves as though everything IS potentially knowable (i.e. explicable), whilst the mystical way insists the opposite. But there is simply no way to prove either standpoint (not yet, at least!). Both assertions are completely based on faith; in this sense, I would say that one is as 'mystical' as the other! - They ARE unknowable by me, at least. that is not to automatically assert that they are *intrinsically* unknowable - I've no way to rationally make such an assertion! MB: Everything out there IS potentially knowable in the sense that we can and do intellectualize new experiences (undivided reality may be divided ad infinitum). But the reality that is apart from our abstraction of it can never be known, if we accept that to know is to abstract reality. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ MOQ.ORG - http://www.moq.org Mail Archive - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/ MD Queries - [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from moq_discuss follow the instructions at: http://www.moq.org/md/subscribe.html
