Struan:

A couple of points in response to your latest Pirsig put down: 

STRUAN:
. . . we all do have a built in quality detector . . . that defines every 
action we take and . . . our very being.

Good. I assume the �we� in your sentence refers to atoms as well 
as people. If not, you�ve missed Pirsig�s point in saying �Quality 
equals reality.�

STRUAN:
It is asking whether value is EQUIVALENT to reality. . . . Most 
people would agree that a horse is real and yet it would be 
fallacious to conclude from this that a horse EQUALS reality.

A false analogy. Pirsig�s metaphysics says that reality is 
equivalent to patterns of value. You, me and horses are examples 
of such patterns. 

STRUAN:
I submit that nothing but the platitudinously obvious has been 
forwarded, albeit confused by an alleged conflation of the stock 
market, money and mechanism which drives the stock market, a 
confusion nobody who thinks about it will make.

It�s far from platitudinously obvious to most people how money 
and the stock market measure social quality since most people 
never heard of �social quality� and haven�t the slightest idea how it 
fits into a hierarchy of values as explained in the MOQ. It would 
seem the meaning of social quality as presented in the MOQ also 
escapes you.

STRUAN:
The objections I raised in my initial posting to the squad stand to 
this day and, until answered properly, making the lifting of the moq 
to a practical ethical system impossible.

Impossible? No more so than the ethical system championed by 
your cult-like heroine Iris Murdoch who during World War II was an 
active member of the Communist party. (Two can play the game of 
ad hominem attacks such as your comparison of Pirsig to 
�theologians, rogues, despots, cult leaders and priests.�) As to 
whether your objections still stand, I doubt it�except in your own 
mind.

Platt





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