To Rick, with a PS to Marco:

ROGER (On Quality=Reality):
>Ontologically, DQ is value/morality/change and sq is the patterns formed from
>this change. Subatomic reality is patterns of flux, forming inorganic
>patterns which form living patterns etc.
>Epistimologically, DQ is pure experience prior to our slicing and dicing
>it into sq -- patterns of experience.
 
 
>RICK:
>Yes, we all know what Pirsig says...but these are propositions and theories,
>not evidence.
  
ROG:
Agreed.  These are propositions that conform to current intellectual 
theories, experience and to themselves. The MOQ is an intellectual metaphor 
for reality, and it is based on its quality as an intellectual metaphor that 
it should be judged. Do you agree?

Be Good!

Rog

PS -- Marco, your response was GOLDEN!!!  I am trying to get time to respond. 
 In the mean time, let me assure you that you are right that Pirsig aligns 
more with your view concerning human rights.  Check out chapters 13 and 24.


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