yes -- the excluded middle is more the realm of possibles than just 'null'.

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> Sent: Monday, 11 December 2000 11:30
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> Subject: MD EITHER/OR, BOTH/AND
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> 
> Hi there
> On 11 Dec 2000, at 0:29, Chris Lofting wrote:
> 
> > > CHRIS WROTE:
> > > IOW the set of all possible expressions contains BOTH A and 
> ~A.  This is
> > > identifiable as a BOTH/AND state and from a LOCAL perspective
> > > cannot exist 'at the same time'.
> > >
> > > ELEPHANT REPLIED:
> > > Sorry, but "at the same time" *is* just what we mean by 
> "local perspective":
> > > There is no local perspective *towards* "at the same time".  
> That an object
> > > cannot be both F and ~F at the same time is something 
> universally true.
> > >
> > > CHRIS RESPONDED:
> > Yes and no :-) It is our method of analysis that cannot cope 
> with this in
> > that the F/~F exists as a set of potentials within the set of possible
> > expressions within a mode of interpretation.
> 
> HORSE INTERJECTS:
> That something is both A AND ~A simultaneously is one of the 
> fundamental principles of 
> Fuzzy Logic/Thinking. The main problem with this occurs when we 
> assume that the law of the 
> excluded middle is in fact a law, when it is actually o more than 
> an outdated and incorrect 
> convention. Boolean/Bivalent logic stipulates that something is A 
> or it is ~A but 
> Fuzzy/Multivalent logic states that in the majority of "real 
> world" cases it is normal for a "thing" 
> to be BOTH A AND ~A. Bivalent (Either/Or) logic is shown to be no 
> more than a subset of 
> multivalent (Both/And) logic (Zadeh).
> The Staitc Levels are a reasonable case in point.
> 
> See Ya
> 
> 
> Horse
> 
> 
> 
> 
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