Hi Thracian:

Welcome to the discussion. Some more �ponderings� as a result of 
your post about zero:

�Is� presumes �Is not.�

Hillary Clinton: �I know nothing.�

To be or not to be are both states of being.

There must be nothing for there to be something

There is nothing which is not. Things that are not, are.

There must exist the concept of nonexistence to believe existence 
exists.

The bases for all logic and mathematics are the concepts of many, one 
and none.

The basic question for philosophy is �Why is there something rather 
than nothing?�

Pirsig:
Quality is indivisible, undefinable and unknowable in the sense that 
there is a knower and a known, but a metaphysics is none of these 
things. A metaphysics must be divisible, definable and knowable, or 
there isn�t any metaphysics.

Pirsig:
The word �quality� is superior to �oneness� and �nothingness� because 
it is impossible for scientists to reject it as metaphysical claptrap. They 
try, but they cannot get away with saying there are no values in the 
world. Even a so-so philosopher can cut them to pieces dialectically.

Platt




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