Hi Rog:

> ROG:
> Sorry, but I sense something wrong with this argument. To presuppose that 
> atoms have "choice" and "awareness" and a "vague sense of betterness" 
> overstates the issue to the point of absurdity, or at least to the point of 
> making the terms "choice," "awareness," and "sense" meaningless.  
> 
> Perhaps the real nemesis here is a philosopher trying to reduce the entire 
> universe into one oversimplified principle that they can fit onto a Tee shirt.
> 
> But perhaps I am just being negative.....

Perhaps you're right. I take it you disagree with physicist Freeman 
Dyson that "Mind, as manifest by the capacity to make choices, is to 
some extent inherent in every atom" and that you disagree with Pirsig 
who wrote,  "But in modern quantum physics all that is changed. 
Particles "prefer" to do what they do."

My guess is that such sentences are too metaphorically strong for your 
liking and thus present a false picture.  Instead of "awareness" would 
you accept  Whitehead's much less provocative word "prehension" to 
describe a particle's response to an observation or an atom's 
sensitivity to its environment? 

It seems to me that some form of awareness at the inorganic level, no 
matter how dim, (and no matter how described) is required if the MOQ 
theory of  value-centered evoution driven by Dynamic forces is to hold 
up. You cannot strive for something better without at least "sensing" in 
some fashion or other a more desirable state to aspire to.

I'd be interested to know at what point in the hierarchy of evolution you 
consider that "awareness," "choice," and "sense" become 
meaningless, and how you think those qualities can originate from 
elements that lack them if indeed that is your belief.

One final question. Do I detect a weakening of your confidence in the 
MOQ over the years?  

Platt
   


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