Thanks 3WD. Extremely useful post at grounding out what our friends are really asking for. Perhaps they can choose the definition that best matches their collectivist view. Here is a quote from a must read book for all our budding socialists: It is from The Lexus and the Olive Tree by Thomas Friedman: "...the spread of capitalism has raised living standards higher, faster, and for more people than at any time in history. It has also brought more poor people into the middle classes more quickly than at any time in human history. So, while the gap between rich and poor is getting wider -- as the winners of today's globalization system really take off and separate themselves from everyone else -- the floor under the poor has been rising steadily.....According to the 1997 UN Human Development report, poverty has fallen more in the past 50 years than in the previous 500. Developing countries have progressed as fast in the past 30 years as the industrialized world did in the previous century. Since 1960, infant mortality rates, malnutrition and illiteracy are all significantly down....." The author goes on to highlight that the biggest winners in the report were those countries most open to moderated global capitalism. If the above accomplishments of free enterprise are so immoral, then what do our socialist friends think is moral? Rog MOQ.ORG - http://www.moq.org Mail Archive - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/ MD Queries - [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from moq_discuss follow the instructions at: http://www.moq.org/md/subscribe.html
