[Platt had said] I think he's saying that we can find some good in ancient and primitive cultures. [SA] This goes along with my questioning on the other thread. What is good about these ancient and primitive cultures?
[Arlo] Hi, SA. It goes probably without saying that, for me, the first lesson is one of "being in the world" (to borrow a Heideggerism). Of course, I'm not using it in a strict Heidegger interpretation*, but rather to "being part of the world", as Pirsig reminds us non-S/O cultures demonstrate. * Several, including Matt and Ant and likely others have posited a similarity (or some similarity) between Pirsig and Heidegger, but I am no expert in that regard. As such, I'd think this constitutes the "respect for the design" lacking in S/O-dominant cultures. The hippies, beatniks, bohemians et al. were on the right track in this regard, but they faltered due to their own S/O proclivity. I've proposed many times that the way forward should begin looking at where this "moral revolution" went right. In fact, I think this was a "moral revolution" in precisely the way it pointed to these non-S/O cultures, the Amerindians of LILA or the Zen Buddhists of ZMM. Somewhere I read recently (I think it was Ant's site, but I just checked and a cursory glance couldn't locate it) something Pirsig said about Japanese people he meets wondering what "all the fuss" is about (regarding ZMM). Its not a breakthrough book for them because its just common-sense in their tradition. Ah, but for the day when it is common-sense in our own... moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
