Craig, Platt, Tectonic plates are crashing into each other now ... you can measure / witness it any day you choose. But that doesn't help the argument.
Time / change / causality are pretty weird concepts when you look closely, and I have looked. Paul (Turner) seemed to get closest to it before. There is a kind of truism that only "now" exists to be experienced, and everything else is an explanatory / sense-making model we hold in our heads. As a result it's possible to hold very different views, all consistent with empirical experience - by definition - we hold them precisely to explain empirical experience. Free lobster tomorrow. Ian On 2/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Platt] > > Crashing tetonic plates only occur in your present imagination. You may > > strongly believe now that > > crashing plates occurred in the past, and can now point to evidence that > it happened. But you can't > > leave the now to actually witness the events. > > What is the importance of witnessing the event? Esse ist percipi, Brute? > Crashing tetonic plates may be occurring all over the universe--in places I > can't witness, find evidence of or even imagine. Are you saying that > therefore they didn't happen? > Craig > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
