Interesting, there is a near identical thread going on on Friends of Wisdom too.
There is no doubt active personal decisions are important, basically anything that reduces "consumption" and inefficient transportation. Every little helps. No one sympathetic to Zen, could deny the "tending our own garden" adage. Every journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step, etc. I applaud that list Dan; I doubt I could hit 40% of that, and I have to admit being addicted to driving for the pleasure of it. (Ligtweight open top sports, for the same reasons some of your are addicted to motorcycles - in the frame.) Global warming is real (enough) - the Stern report convinced me. Yes the environment is chaotic, and no, no-one will ever prove warming is "caused" by human activity - so all pronouncements ate political / rhetorical, by definition. I actually don't care whether global warming is real or proven - dreadfully outdated SOMist concepts anyway, proof, reality and causation. What matters is recognising higher quality patterns of behaviour, and evolving towards them. My main reaction to these lists of personal contributions to lower consumoption and fairer trade, is wonderful, but "is that all ?". Any human (with the freedom of choice) can (and should) take part in this "turning away" from consumption. But what should MoQ'ers (with a great trick up our sleeve) do in addition ? For a start we could spread the word that debates about whether things are "proven" or not are themselves contributing to global warming and without value. Ian On 2/12/07, Case <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Arlo] > Case, amigo, I just can't picture you being a minivaner. Trade it in! > Get a Mustang! Or a 'Vette! Or a Harley!! A F-150 4WD! Something with > the letters "GTO"! Reclaim your manhood! :-) > > [Case] > Sorry to disappoint but a vehicle for me is just a way to get from point A > to point B. I would be happy to walk if the points moved closer together. > Mama gets whatever the "good" car is and I trash the leftover. For about > five years I spent less than a $1,000 per year on a "new" well used car and > drove them 'til they stopped running. As I recall 3 out of 5 were minivans > mostly because I was hauling things around at the time. > > I have almost no personal identification with whatever I am driving and if > it requires maintenance of any kind, it's gone. Vehicles are a necessary > evil in my book with emphasis on "evil". > > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
