I agree SA, You snipped out my final para .... it takes effort (leg work, as you say) to find the coherent patterns of value (truth) in a mass of dialogue and narrative.
No leg work, no truth. No leg work, no vote, maybe ? (Only kidding) Democracy is participatory, someone said. Ian On 2/13/07, Heather Perella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Ian] > > Remember I'm an "excluded middles" kind of > pragmatist. > > Yes, I understand where you come from. Science > is political, for politics is a group of people > recognizing a common interest, and with scientists > this common interest is science. They do have to > understand the data and correctly communicate their > findings. Yet, what of strict politics which doesn't > go into the field and see the pollution or ignores the > pollution. Politicians without the leg work are the > same as ivory tower scientists without the leg > work/field work. Would not middle ground be found > with those doing the leg work and consistently > arriving at similar conclusions amongst a group going > in different directions (around the earth) and coming > back with similar findings. This is where the debate > begins. The debate is with those that don't do the > leg work, don't look at the data found by those that > do the leg work, and just come up with conclusions > based on it's all politics so ignore these scientific > conclusions. > Platt has provide more sources for his > conclusions, but I've asked him what about those > conclusions has lead to his 'ignore global warming' > conclusion. I've also asked what lead to this > conclusion of his. Was it his 'no leg-work' ivory > tower view, and/or has somebody persuaded him, and/or > has he looked at the data and come to this conclusion > on his own? > > SA > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Bored stiff? Loosen up... > Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. > http://games.yahoo.com/games/front > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
