SA, Shhhhhhhhhh.
I wonder if you, or the other women you mentioned, can know what it is like to be a young woman in this meatloaf society. m At 01:37 PM 2/14/2007, you wrote: >Marsha, > >ok, now if you fit this into a resident who is >yelling, disrupting other residents and staff, hitting >staff, as in how to manage their non-control of their >very self's would be helpful. I've talked to this >resident. Actually her and I are on one of the best >talking terms than some of the other staff, and I >still find her inability to control her own behavior a >dip into hopelessness. Sure she is contrary to much >of the rest of society, but animals can be too. I've >spoken to her about how she uses brute force to get >her point across and it would be much easier and more >healthy for all of us, including her, if she would >just talk instead of physically threatening staff. It >is about helping her realize her own mind can help >control her self, but brute force has been her means >of accomplishing much for some time now (outside of >the placement I work at as well). I know she has >something to say. I've heard her mention how >placement is terrible. Yet, she is in a place that is >trying to get her to realize brute force is not as >helpful as discussion. > Wondering why you asked about this, especially >her being a female. You know she goes after female >staff when she hits. The females are usually weaker, >and will manage her during these episodes, but you >need more females to show up or hopefully some of the >bigger males do. > >thanks. >SA > > > > > [Marsha] > > > > I wonder if you remember the contrarian students > > > > in the back of Phædrus's. > > > > > > Which contrarian students in the back? > > > > SA, > > > > I should have written: I wonder if you remember > > the contrarian students in the back of Phædrus's > > classroom. See below. I consider the failing > > students to be contrarian because they don't buy > > into the insane system. > > > > ------ > > > > ``I've wondered too,'' Phædrus had said, and in a > > puzzled voice had added, ``I think maybe it's > > because every teacher tends to grade up students > > who resemble him the most. If your own writing > > shows neat penmanship you regard that more > > important in a student than if it doesn't. If you > > use big words you're going to like students who > > write with big words.'' > > > > ``Sure. What's wrong with that?'' DeWeese had said. > > > > ``Well, there's something whacky here,'' Phædrus > > had said, ``because the students I like the most, > > the ones I really feel a sense of identity with, are > > all failing!'' > > > > DeWeese had completely broken up with laughter at > > this and left Phædrus feeling miffed. He had seen > > it as a kind of scientific phenomenon that might > > offer clues leading to new understanding, and > > DeWeese had just laughed. > > > > At first he thought DeWeese was just laughing at > > his unintended insult to himself. But that didn't > > fit because DeWeese wasn't a derogatory kind of > > person at all. Later he saw it was a kind of > > supertruth laugh. The best students always are > > flunking. Every good teacher knows that. It was a > > kind of laughter that destroys tensions produced > > by impossible situations and Phædrus could have > > used some of it because at this time he was taking > > things way too seriously. > > > > (ZMM, > > Chapter 12) > > > > > > > > moq_discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ >8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time >with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. >http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news >moq_discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
