Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Platt] > > I like to think that I too was a "parent." And yes, to Horse we owe > > much. This site, unlike a lot of computer systems, operates like a > > perfectly tuned Harley without the god-awful noise.
[Bo] > You are and I am, comparatively, but I mean there were those > "fabulous four" Diana McPartlin, Magnus, Jason something and (I > seem to remember) a brother of his, or were there other? I hope > Magnus can give us the final and true version of how it got > started, "The Gospel according to Magnus" ;-D. Point taken -- all hail to the individuals who created this site. > How the > Discussion works to-day? At times it is pretty thin Qualitywise, > every possible topic except Pirsig, but then it checks itself and > runs perfectly. I was referring to the technology, not the content. Too often, the two are conflated. Ipods are marvels of technical innovation, but is the music any better? > Speaking of Harleys, is the "American Chopper" TV series still > shown (on the "Discovery Channel") in the USA? Was there ever such a program? If there was, I would be the first to change the channel. :-) > > If Quality equals experience, it would appear that consciousness has > > an essential place in the MOQ. Please explain. > As said to Ham, people often have different suggestions of what > "equals experience". Ham's entry is consciousness, but it can't > hover above existence forever, it has to become a metaphysics, > and then one realizes that dynamic/static (D/S) is the only > division that challenges SOM, because a S/O-divided > consciousness (for ex.) is indistinguishable from ordinary SOM. > And one realizes further that if a new D/S (whatever) > metaphysics is to replace it, SOM's subjective (consciousness) > will disappear, as will its objective. Consciousness' pace in the > MOQ is as part of intellect's S/O repertoire. The highest and best > value there is, yet static, and subordinate to the DQ/SQ system > itself (the MOQ). IMO. How do you differentiate "experience" from "consciousness?" Pirsig wrote: "Quality is direct experience . . ." (Lila, 5) It would appear that "experience" is a part of MOQ's D/S repertoire. Thanks. Platt ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
