[Ham,] "I've been arguing that the S/O reality is essential; we need this division in order to sense otherness as Value."
[x] This is why the statement "it cannot be proven that anything exists outside humans" doesent Really fit. I can see why you were interested in it because that's what quantum mechanics Suggest, as one of the first scientists stated in "what the bleep", quantum physics is a name Created by scientists who are totally baffled about the phenomena happening on the atomic Level. Thus a "theory of possiblities". If parts of matter can pop in and out of reality, Then what seperates it from say, a thought? But as I stated before, I feel they misinterpret What they observe, same as the Columbus analogy, the natives saw the ships they just did'nt Know they were "ships" until a symbol of authority could distinguish just what the heck they Were actually seeing, which was a big weird canoe. Because these particals phase in and out, Scientists postulate that they phase into another reality so reality itself is multi-dimensional To the infinite degree. expressing every possiblity Of every negation and value decision in every moment.I'ts still SOM but quantitative infinately So it gets you to look at time in a new way. you see it as a dimension of possibility Rather than linearly as something which already took place and is over, it is something which is happening Now but in another dimension of reality. you see time as an illusion and the only thing is Relavent is the now. Man is the measure works in this in as far as the idea of an infinite ultimate awareness That manifests itself in quantum multiplicity and realizes itself aware and separate through negation So it is a "self posited I" and part of an ultimate awareness, only the self posited I is confused By the s/o reality it requires to experience anything and interprates itself as separate. If the theory is correct then all matter is a manifestation of this awareness and influences it At every moment. Now, what you call this ultimate awarenes is the topic of much debate.. This is where Hegel fused it with christianity. ..Personally I feel quantum theory leaves the window open to all kinds of conjecture. and I have my misgivings about quantum theory as a whole. I thought the movie would intrest you in this regard. Thanks Ham, I feel things moving to A new level of understanding. -x moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
