Hi DMB Some hints for you to ponder:
experience=reality experience can be divided into SQ & DQ experience can be divided into what is actual and possible/potential experience=reality=actual/possible Aristotle rejected the idea that the possible is real, which has been a western assumption ever since, want to stick with him? Whitehead says god or infinite potential is entirely non-actual. By the way if you need some hard homework I know a good book on Heideggger and Whitehead, let me know. Have a think. You know, the reality of what is potential first struck me via quantum physics, you know, the way waves of potential interfere with each other, and have a mathematically describable influence on what becomes actual. It's all in the process, and if you look at it right, it's all there in our experience too. And another hint: Intellect has quite alot to do with differentiating what is potential and not actual, this can occur prior to something only potential becoming actual, which is a dynamic emergence that is differentiated and deliberate, the very meaning of intellect/agency. Pirsig fails to properly analyse this aspect of the relationship between intellect and DQ. Agentive emergence (intelligence) is differentiated and emergent-dynamic. Now why not sit on those kick back reflexes and have a real think about this. David M ----- Original Message ----- From: "david buchanan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [MD] Terry Eagleton's God Delusion > David M said: > 'God' as a word for the source of all possibilities is well covered in > Sneddon's thesis on Whitehead & Pirsig, it's simple stuff really, I'm sure > you can grasp it. > > dmb says: > It may be simple to read a master's thesis (although that's debatable) but > it would consume many hours of my time. One would think, if it is so > simple > and easy to grasp, that you would have simply answered my question. > > David M said: > I think Whitehead's analysis of the distinction possible/actual is key to > expanding what Pirsig says about static/dynamic. The physicist Shimon > Malin > thinks Whitehead's approach is the ideal one for making sense of quantum > theory, the connections to Pirsig are obvious if you look at the chapters > in this: ... > > dmb says: > Process philosophy and quantum theory expands Pirsig dq/sq split. Just a > few > chapters and I'll see all this and its relation to Whitehead's > possible/actual distinction? Oh yea, that sounds real simple. And again, > this would take hours at least. > > If you have an answer to my question, that's fine. But I have way more > than > enough to read already. I'll ask you (again) to refrain from giving me > homework instead of straight talk. If the concept has meaning, then it can > be explained. I suspect no explanations have been offered for that reason. > I > mean, it looks like your (second) non-answer is just another evasion. If > there are so many interesting connections, wouldn't all the readers gain > something from it and isn't that the point of a forum like this one? > > Why is it getting any kind of coherent thought from you is like pulling > teeth? Why would you tell somebody that the answer is simple and then not > simply give it? Maybe I should try to be compassionate about it because > you're not capable for some reason, but I'm not. This philosophical > impotence only makes me angry. Its just more of the vagueness and > abstraction I was complaining about in the first place. And the > condescending attitude doesn't help either. > > Thanks for nothing, > dmb > > _________________________________________________________________ > Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a > month. > Intro*Terms > https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117 > > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
