[Arlo] Below when I say "as a metaphysics, its descriptions can contain experience without paradox.", I meant to say "as a metaphysics, its descriptions can NOT contain experience without paradox."
Sorry for the confusion. At 11:01 AM 3/2/2007, you wrote: >[Platt] >Now the MOQ level has arrived and people can think about intellect as >a static value pure and simple, thus bypassing paradox, recursions, >strange loops and infinite regress > >[Arlo] >I'm sorry, Platt, gonna have to disagree with you on this. The only >way to "bypass" strange loops is to avoid "intellection" altogether. >The "out" in the MOQ is the pre-intellectual, "mystical" inclusion >brought in via Buddhism (for example). One simply can't "think about >thinking", even using MOQ-terminology, and avoid paradox, recursion and loops. > >What the MOQ does is make evident the "event horizon" surrounding >Quality. When Pirsig says "all this is just an analogy", he includes >within it the MOQ itself. Sure, the MOQ gives us a better way to >intellectually carve-up our experiences, and does not divide us from >the world as does SOM, but as an intellectual system, as a >metaphysics, its descriptions can contain experience without paradox. >Indeed, the key difference is that while SOM is blind to this, and >actively seeks an intellectual "literal truth", the MOQ embraces it, >and says that that core experience can only be seen through analogy, >metaphor, art, can only be glimpsed pre-intellectually. > >moq_discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
