OK Platt, one small step at a time - well two - two examples. Have you never "observed" a person modify their behaviour after a learning experience ? Have you ever observed such a person try to pass that learning on to another ?
Yes or no ? Have you never seen or read sufficient evidence for you to believe that common viruses mutate - different strains of 'flu appearing in different places and times ? Do you believe in the recent existence of "resistant" strains of infection (super-bugs)that did not previously exist in hospitals ? Yes or no ? If you haven't, I'll join Ron and give up there ;-) If you have, then you have observed and believed (what I mean by) evolution. What we may not agree on is the intellectual reasons of why I might use the word "evolution" to explain it, and you might attribute other "causal mechanisms". But, one step at a time. Ian On 3/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting ian glendinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I say we all "see" evolution happening every day, even Platt, > > particularly social and intellectual, and even biological. > > I don't "see" evolution occurring at the biological or social levels. Perhaps > you can tell us what you see. > > > What we don't all see is the same "reasoning" for the processes and > > events that we see happening. Some people assume simple causal agency, > > and get stuck looking in the dark for "evidence" and "proof" - some > > appreciate the recursive nature of the processes involved and find > > their intellect evolving as a result. > > Also, please tell us how you "see" intellect evolving beyond observation, > evidence and causation. > > Thanks. > > ------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
