An honest attempt thus follows:

If we remove the theoretical "I" from an equation it seems a reasonable 
assumption that the result will be "absence of I". This absent state can then 
be regarded as an entity (AOI). 
With the starting assumption that AOI exists I can then require the questioner 
to prove its non existence, rather than the other way around. 

Micah, please prove that my non-existence does not exist in absence of my 
existence?

Clearly this AOI is an example of a "thing" that exists independently of me and 
will be present after my death, better than that it is actively "proved" by my 
non-existence - the deader I am the more strongly the case is made.

Jos





> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Micah
> Sent: 19 March 2007 16:14
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [MD] Clouds
> 
> 
> Case,
> 
> Will you at least answer the question? Or are you a Solipsist?
> 
> Micah
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Case
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 10:11 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [MD] Clouds
> 
> 
> [Micah]
> "I" can't prove anything without "I", can you? I can't prove 
> anything after
> death, can you?
> 
> [Case]
> That is as good a statement of solipsism as I have heard yet. Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> moq_discuss mailing list
> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
> Archives:
> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
> moq_discuss mailing list
> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
> Archives:
> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
> 
> PLEASE NOTE: THE ABOVE MESSAGE WAS RECEIVED FROM THE INTERNET.
> On entering the GSI, this email was scanned for viruses by 
> the Government Secure Intranet (GSi) virus scanning service 
> supplied exclusively by Cable & Wireless in partnership with 
> MessageLabs.
> In case of problems, please call your organisational IT Helpdesk.
> The MessageLabs Anti Virus Service is the first managed 
> service to achieve the CSIA Claims Tested Mark (CCTM 
> Certificate Number 2006/04/0007), the UK Government quality 
> mark initiative for information security products and 
> services.  For more information about this please visit 
www.cctmark.gov.uk


This e-mail (and any attachment) is intended only for the attention of the 
addressee(s). Its unauthorised use, disclosure, storage or copying is not 
permitted. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies and 
inform the sender by return e-mail.

This e-mail (and any attachment) is intended only for the attention of the 
addressee(s). Its unauthorised use, disclosure, storage or copying is not 
permitted. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies and 
inform the sender by return e-mail.

This e-mail (whether you are the sender or the recipient) may be monitored, 
recorded and retained by the Department For Constitutional Affairs. E-mail 
monitoring / blocking software may be used, and e-mail content may be read at 
any time. You have a responsibility to ensure laws are not broken when 
composing or forwarding e-mails and their contents.


This e-mail (and any attachment) is intended only for the attention of the 
addressee(s). Its unauthorised use, disclosure, storage or copying is not 
permitted. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies and 
inform the sender by return e-mail.

This e-mail (and any attachment) is intended only for the attention of the 
addressee(s). Its unauthorised use, disclosure, storage or copying is not 
permitted. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies and 
inform the sender by return e-mail.

This e-mail (whether you are the sender or the recipient) may be monitored, 
recorded and retained by the Department For Constitutional Affairs. E-mail 
monitoring / blocking software may be used, and e-mail content may be read at 
any time. You have a responsibility to ensure laws are not broken when 
composing or forwarding e-mails and their contents.

The original of this email was scanned for viruses by Government Secure 
Intranet (GSi)  virus scanning service supplied exclusively by Cable & Wireless 
in partnership with MessageLabs.
On leaving the GSI this email was certified virus free.
The MessageLabs Anti Virus Service is the first managed service to achieve the 
CSIA Claims Tested Mark (CCTM Certificate Number 2006/04/0007), the UK 
Government quality mark initiative for information security products and 
services.  For more information about this please visit www.cctmark.gov.uk
moq_discuss mailing list
Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
Archives:
http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/

Reply via email to