In the "Quantum computing" thread, Case said:
The metaphor of concentric circles to encapsulate the "levels" implies that
the outer circles include everything in the inner circles. The concentric
circles are like Venn diagrams in set theory. In the instance the MoQ you
would have to have the intellectual level at the center and the inorganic
level on the outside for the metaphor to work.
dmb says:
I don't know about Venn diagrams, but I think there is a good reason why
we'd put the inorganic at the center or at the bottom of a hierarchy like
this. It expresses the evolutionary relationship between the levels as one
of dependence. If we took out the biological level, for example, the
inorganic would remain intact, but the social and intellectual levels would
be destroyed. They necessarily exist on top of and in addition to that level
and so they go out the window too. (Think about global warming from that
perspective!)
This image is not supposed to imply that everything below a level is
"encapsulated" by it. In fact we can see that atoms and other inorganic
patterns are far more abundant than the patterns of life. So we get smaller
and smaller sets of structures at the same time that we get greater and
greater degrees of complexity. Think of the way physicists are a subset of
language users, for example.
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