Hello Platt. > > Let's do both. > > > > Let's begin with a shared understanding of our disagreement. I propose the > > statement, "concepts have power to affect change in people." Do we agree > > that you take this to be a true statement and I take it to be a false > > statement? > > Agree > > > And can we agree that the statement is itself a concept? > > Agree > > > If you are right then the statement "concepts have power to affect change in > > people" could, by itself, affect a change in me such that I would change my > > mind about it. > > Don't know what you mean "by itself." A series of concepts such as presented > in an argument might well change your mind. Agree? Disagree. An argument might just go in one ear and out the other. But I see what you mean. Arguments are used all the time to affect changes in people's opinions of things, e.g., court room arguments and jurors, election-year debates and voters, moq.org and MOQers etc. What I mean by "affect change in people" is something deeper than that. I'm talking about change at the level of transformation. How does a person's awareness of reality change from a dualistic and fragmented interplay of discrete subjects and discrete objects to Quality? Taking Quality to be the source of everything, I take it that at some level Quality has a direct affect on people, and not Quality mediated through language or ideas or concepts. I think any exploration of what is meant by the "power to affect change in people," to be useful, must look at the person; the person as individual, the person as family member, the person a responsible citizen, the person as mystic, the person as life and the person as incarnate Quality. I'd like to explore these things. I don't think the Metaphysics of Quality comes close to doing this.
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