Case:

I find it very hard to believe that you could miss this point. Think of the big bang, the way the universe expands in every direction from a single point. It doesn't occupy a pre-existing space as it grows but rather space itself unfolds during that expansion. The evolutionary process is analogous insofar as new forms do not occupy some previously empty stage but rather these forms open up new space, lay down new turf. And this difference is important because the latter avoids the SOM assumption that there is a pre-existing objective reality in which subjects evolve, such as is evoked by branches growing skyward. Those assumptions suggest that evolution happens at certain points inside the universe and the MOQ and Wilber's system assert that the whole universe is itself the process and product of evolution. See?

dmb


From: "Case" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [MD] Quantum computing
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:46:52 -0400

[dmb]
Did you notice how Case had to pretend I was making an argument for a
staircase or a ladder in order avoid this point? Why? Because staircases and

ladders also need a pre-existing enviroment and so the switch inserts the
same mistake we find with trees. These are all flawed for the same reason
but the concentric circles rightly suggest no such externals.

[Case]
Since you pretended I was talking about a tree I pretended you where talking
about a ladder or stairs. I should have seen you were talking about a
layered cake instead. So you draw your bulls-eye on a piece of paper and you
what have you got? Hmm, inside and outside. No externals? Right? Not.



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