Hello everyone >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [MD] Art of Value >Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 14:53:50 -0400 > >Quoting Dan Glover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I think the MOQ would say the individual invents the ficticous self so >in a > > sense we are our own creators. > >Hi Dan, > >Your statement raises a question. If the individual invents a fictitious >self, >does the self create a fictitious individual? In other words, is there a >difference between self and individual? Or, am I just being querulous?
Hi Platt Thank you for your reply. The MOQ is built on morality: "Because Quality is morality. Make no mistake about it. They're identical. And if Quality is the primary reality of the world then that means morality is also the primary reality of the world. The world is primarily a moral order." (LILA) Morality means to help others, or at least to do no harm. Looking to Buddhism there are 4 noble truths. (1) Suffering, (2) Sources of suffering, (3) Cessation of suffering, (4) True paths. Suffering is like an illness we all have. In order to effect a cure, we have to diagnose the illness. Buddhism teaches there are 3 types of suffering: pain, change, and pervasive conditioning. We all know what pain feels like. Change is like the song that we hear for the first time and it sounds so good that we go out and buy it. We can't wait to get home and listen to it. And it sounds good. But not quite as good as the first time. And after we listen to it several times it loses its luster. We don't understand why we liked it so much in the beginning. That is called the suffering of change. The third level of suffering is deeper. Pervasive conditioning arises when we begin to see ourselves separate and apart from the world. People become what they produce. Their function is to make money to buy more and more and more. There is a Buddhist saying that the wealthier a person becomes the greater the suffering they endure. The fundamental misconception of the self as separate and apart from the world gives rise to hatred, lust, envy, and belligerance. When you are hit you want to hit back. Buddhism teaches that the solution to suffering is the process of overcoming the pervasive conditioning of seeing the self as separate from the world. We have to understand the true nature of people and things. When the individual self is seen as an empty concept, as a convenient shorthand, Buddhism teaches that we enter a state beyond suffering. The true path is morality. Thus the MOQ is built on morality. I hope this helps answer your very good question. Thank you for reading, Dan moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
