Quoting Arlo Bensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> [Platt]
> Using the MOQ as a moral guide, my question is, "Why not?" I find 
> nothing in the MOQ that suggests that government controlled universal 
> health care is a moral demand. But, I could be wrong.
> 
> [Arlo]
> Nor do I find anything in the MOQ suggestion human life is a market 
> commodity. Quite the opposite, I find Pirsig stating quite clearly 
> that a human being (as a source of ideas) is something to be 
> preserved unless (the only exception I can find) is s/he poses an 
> imminent threat to society.

Yes, good point. Reinforces my stance for the moral superiority of the
individual over the social. But, the case of keeping a prisoner from being
executed by the state is quite different from the state providing health care
through forced taxation. In the former case, the state is prevented from 
exercising legal force; in the latter, it is encouraged to use that force, an
always dangerous threat to liberty.  

> [Platt to Jos]
> Are you suggesting there are not many other examples?
> 
> [Arlo]
> Are you suggesting there are not many counter-examples in the 
> American health care system? Again, check out "Sick". 
> (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18038612/site/newsweek/?from=rss)

I think Ben Golden's post puts all examples in accurate perspective. Do you 
agree?


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