[Ant] [Platt] ended-up criticising "Grimecare" who are a privatised health organization even though a cursory Google check would have revealed this information to him.
[Arlo] Yes, it would have. But had he done that, do you seriously think he would've posted under the thread you just started? Hell, no! Indeed, his response then would have been nothing more than to condemn the Guardian for "liberal bias". When the example was thought to condemn "social" medicine, it served as reason to condemn. When the example is shown not to be, he responds by dismissing anecdotal evidence outright. There were two lines out of Platt's "reason". "This article proves socialism is at fault!" "Actually, the article proved capitalism was at fault." "Ah, you can't condemn capitalism based on anecdotal evidence." "This article proves socialism is at fault!" "Actually, the article proved capitalism was at fault." "Ah, that just proves how inept the Guardian is at reporting, so we can dismiss whatever they say." Everything else has just been an elaborate rhetorical dance around those two basic exchanges. (My favorite part was about "preparing a thesis", that continues to make me chuckle... although there was some "American" embarrassment mixed in. Yup, reading and thinking are elitist ideas. How dare I or you assume people should do that! Welcome to mainstream America.) [Platt to Ant] I doubt if even a died-in-the-wool socialist like Ant McWatt... [Arlo] When all else fails, eh, Ant? [Ant] So we see that it was the privatised nature of the out-of-hours service that ultimately resulted in this poor woman's death i.e. cutting costs by using a nurse to provide critical medical advice rather than a doctor. [Arlo] The sad result of reducing everything to a market commodity. To bad Ms. Christian wasn't poor and in America, they could have left her to die in the streets like the lazy, worthless slugs poor people are. [Ant] With Platt generously showing us the limitations of privatised medicine, I now look forward to him demanding that a publically provided health system be set-up in South Carolina to prevent such tragic and avoidable incidents happening there. [Arlo] On a bright note, Ant, I think people in America are starting to wake up to the Great Dupe. The "working poor" I meet in bars and parks and jaunts along my travels are starting to realize that they are shafting themselves supporting the present system. While ten years ago "national health care" was a phrase that would get your ass tossed out of most pubs in American Hinterlands, today I gauge about 50/50 split, with the trend going towards support. I expect that in a decade we will have some early form of it. And to the chagrin of the capistocracy, the value of life will no longer be measured by the size of one's wallet. moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
