For those interested, I came to this subject while researching thermodynamic dissipative systems in conjunction with the theory of self organization as it relates to physical bodies.
" Self-organization vs. entropy The idea of self-organization challenges an earlier paradigm of ever-decreasing order which was based on a philosophical generalization from the second law of thermodynamics in statistical thermodynamics where entropy is envisioned as a measure of the statistical "disorder" at a microstate level. However, at the microscopic or local level, the two need not be in contradiction: it is possible for a system to reduce its entropy by transferring it to its environment. In open systems, it is the flow of matter and energy through the system that allows the system to self-organize, and to exchange entropy with the environment. This is the basis of the theory of dissipative structures. Ilya Prigogine noted that self-organization can only occur far away from thermodynamic equilibrium. It would appear that, since isolated systems cannot decrease their entropy, only open systems can exhibit self-organization. However, such a system can gain macroscopic order while increasing its overall entropy. Specifically, a few of the system's macroscopic degrees of freedom can become more ordered at the expense of microscopic disorder." -wiki I found this statement most interesting because it hints at the problems I see with the concept Of the big bang theory with my thoughts on the infinite dynamism the MOQ suggests, it follows as such: "At a more global level, the Earth approximates a closed system in that little matter is exchanged with the surrounding solar system. Life and evolution can occur because of the local input of primarily solar energy, while the global entropy of the solar system as a whole continues to increase towards a cold, dead endpoint. In that sense, life is "swimming upstream" against the larger thermodynamic trends only because of direct sunlight." And I thought, hmmmm this is what I wanted to focus on. -Ron moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
