Quoting Krimel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Those are some but not all of my initial problems with Wilber. I mentioned > his reliance on bogeymen earlier. Flatland is perhaps the scariest of them > all. Here is Wilber on Flatland: > > "The cure does not consist in getting rid of holarchy per se, since, even if > that were possible, it would simply result in a uniform, one-dimensional > flatland of no value distinctions at all (which is why those critics who > toss out hierarchy in general immediately replace it with a new scale of > values of their own, i.e., with their own particular hierarchy)." > > "Our answer, as always, is never to be found in flatland, in the world of > black checkers scurrying endlessly, meaninglessly, dimly, and disappearing > finally into those dark shades of the night that are ever so fundamental, > ever so insignificant." > > "The flatland web of life. > It is from this flat and faded landscape, armed with good intentions and a > weakest-noodle science, that they cry out to us as our saviors, as those who > would heal and make us whole, as those who have seen, and will show us now, > the long-sought Promised Land." > > But surely Wilber knows that Flatland is a Euclidian fable written by Edwin > Abbott in the mid 1880's. In it a Square describes his adventures in three > dimensional space to his fellow Flatlanders. Like prophets everywhere his > news is not taken well. He writes his memoirs from prison. Wilber uses the metaphor of Flatland to describe the shortcomings of science which deals with surfaces all the way down -- all span and no depth. For science all is particulate, right down to quantum particles which exist in spooky "potentialities." Thought on which science depends is not, of course, particulate -- a fact blithely ignored. Why? Because science hasn't a clue as to how thought emerges from a lump of meat. ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
