[Krimel]
It may be bad form to respond to my own post but it
occurred to me to add to the mix of:
possible/impossible
certain/uncertain
Always/Never
Infinity/Zero
Oh yeah...
Dynamic/Static
[SA presently]
Duality does help put this into focus. I see
static patterns on each level in touch with dynamic
quality, and thus, somehow, in some quirky way, static
is not strictly on its' side and dynamic on the other
side and yet, it is. Anyways... Here's other's
respectfully as follows:
undefined/defined
question/answer
dynamic/static
And, Krimel, undefined is certain, is possible,
and is always. The difficulty is in defining. The
pre-intellectual experience, this primary reality
called dynamic quality, for this dq to be defined, oh,
this is where effort is needed. This whole primary
reality is in question, but the answer... Krimel,
Case knew how difficult it is to categorize
particulars, that is answers, into a specific level.
Where the levels retract from each other and where the
levels define themselves into their specific place,
such as this is where intellectual begins and social
ends, etc... this distinction to define takes effort
and any distinction is an answer, yet, we don't have
the full answer and therefore back to the question
again. As you say above, combined with what I say as
follows:
The question is always.
The answer is never.
Yet, without an answer, without definition, then
we will find our selves (individual self if you
insist) collapsing away from the intellectual level
into chaos: no static patterns. So, the effort
continues, the latching continues, the renewal
happens, and an answer occurs, but this answer is
uncertain, as the distinctions are difficult and
impossible one might even say. Inorganic is as exact
as oxygen. Biology is as exact as cell. Social is as
exact as a hand-shake. Intellect is as exact as
thought. And yet, change occurs where air to breath
becomes water to drown, and cell mutates upon itself
into cancer, social into a fist-fight, and intellect
into defining this undefinable. And it is last
mention, this undefinable, we each can agree upon. We
don't have all the answers. Dq is always. And yet,
we can put effort into the impossible and try to
answer and define. Static patterns exist.
Dynamic quality, as I see this now, which is a
180 from how I used to notice dq, this dq is quite
easy to experience, as Zen would say, experience as a
child, clear the mind, and this primary reality is
experienced as the enduring question mark (?). It is
static quality that is challenging.
Krimel and anybody else, I have a question. How
is it the inorganic level, though static and an
impossibility, so lasting? I've seen this before.
It's something like when Einstein said when
'something' travels closer and closer to the speed of
light (186,00 miles per second), which is fast, very
fast everybody would admit probably, then how is it
the 'something' that travels closer to the speed of
light would appear, to itself, to be slowing down. To
travel the speed of light is to slow down? To go 186,
000 miles/per second is to fall into a coma? The
answer (static quality) is the question (dynamic
quality)?, etc... a soft duality?
ok, I'm leaving to backpack,
SA
P.S. This MoQ philosophy might be as I've said
before as follows:
dq=sq
undefined=defined
Thus, a soft duality where the symbol of yin has
yang present inside of it, and yang has yin present
inside of it, too.
We define what is undefined. Pre-intellectual
primary reality is experienced and as human beings
experiencing an intellectual level, we define this
primary reality.
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