Hi DMB David M said to Krimel: Experience is the ground, doubting it has no value, and to live we differentiate and linguistically construct its contents, these constructions transcend experience, and one of these many transcendent aspects of self-conscious linguistically differentiated experience is the world. Only Dasein is world-ing, as Heidegger puts it.
dmb says: Huh? The world transcends experience? I thought the MOQ asserts approximately the opposite. It equates experience with reality. Anything outside of experience is pure fiction. Isn't that the basic idea of radical empiricism; reality is limited to experience and no experience is excluded from reality. You can't ignore anything nor make anything up. I find this to be exceedingly reasonable. A transcendent world? I think Krimel was right to conjure up Kant's things-in-themselves. dmb DM: As is obvious I agree experience=reality, the only reality we have. But there are things we construct from experience that go beyond what we are able to experience but we still need to grasp to understand experience. Wholes are one such example.Unless you get to go into space then you will never experience the whole world. Yet you need to grasp this transcendent notion to make sense of your limited experience. You have the creative ability to fill in the gaps in your experience. Another exampleis when a dog behind a tree, you can no longer see the dog, it transcends your phenomenal experience, but you know it is behind the tree, you fill in the gaps. In fact we seem able to fill in an infinite number of such gaps, a we have a full pass and access to the possible, which is another concept I think you need to grasp my friend. Gaps are fictions, but they can be as real as the dog behind the tree, in truth terms, and in terms of making sense of our experience. You'll like phenomenology when you get round to reading it. Thanks David M moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
