Platt said

"That's why numbers gives the appearance of neutrality or
"objectivity" But scientists who use measurements expressed in numbers
to establish "truth" are no more "objective" than anybody else. They
"value" their methods and conclusions. So when you see a number such
as the degrees of warming in the past two centuries, be skeptical."

You evil comtemptible hypocrite you.

So you really did know those NHS headline stats were questionable rhetoric.
You even dared accuse those who questioned their validity of avoiding
"truth", yet here you tell us numbers are a poor substitute for
"truth" to be treated skeptically. Your word "truth" both times.

Apologise, withdraw from this board, or take your punishment (Horse ?)

Anyway, before you go Platt, can I just thank you for illustrating yet
again the Catch-22 of "skeptical correctness" (after Jorn Barger). And
proving the basic fact of memetics, that the lowest quality arguments,
using the most simplistic logic, tend to prosper and survive longest
in a freely communicating environment. The sad but true problem to
which we need a solution. Platt is living proof. Put him out of his
misery Horse, for all our sakes.

Ian

On 6/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quoting MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > At 07:57 AM 6/12/2007, you wrote:
> > >Quoting MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Greetings,
> > > >
> > > > Is there any difference in Value between zero (0) and one (1)?
> > > >
> > > > Marsha
> > >
> > >Hi Marsha,
> > >
> > >Numbers have no Value in and of themselves. That's why science loves them
> > >so much. They offer the pretext of being completely neutral or "objective."
> > >Of course, we know better. :-)
> >
> > Platt,
> >
> > What do you mean 'Of course, we know better'?    What is the Value
> > difference between 0 and 1?
> >
> > Marsha
>
> Hi Marsha,
>
> There is no Value difference between 0 and 1. That's why numbers gives the
> appearance of neutrality or "objectivity" But scientists who use measurements
> expressed in numbers to establish "truth" are no more "objective" than anybody
> else. They "value" their methods and conclusions. So when you see a number
> such as the degrees of warming in the past two centuries, be skeptical.
>
> Platt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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