[Ian]
> Yes, SA it's that easy for "us" but not for newbies,
> as both Platt and
> I have said. Even for us, after 5 or 6 years in my
> case, my patience
> runs thin, and here's why ...
Even while others, on-site and off-site, discuss
other things openly and let the would-be-leavers
notice directly, via direct experience, how others
discuss differently. How one person brings the whole
site down is a mystery to me. How when others go
directly to newbies to discuss differently then Platt
does, and how these newbies get hung-up unless they
can't lurk or try to listen to others. Maybe some
newbies feel this need to ward off Platt type
discussions, and then when others, like Arlo, jump in
the newbies also see this is the kind of forum it is.
Others feel a need to argue with Platt, so, they feel
the need, until others can discuss with, let's say
Keith for example. Keith has been discussing with
Platt for some time now, but has Arlo or yourself gone
on a tangent with Keith in which Arlo, you and Keith
agree. No, Keith and Platt have been discussing.
Keith and Platt have moved on, but some wait for 1
question to be answered. Give it up! Move on,
discuss on the same subject-line with Keith. Discuss
with somebody that is thoroughly going through the
topic, but instead one's not discussing with Keith as
much as Platt is. If Platt jumps in, don't answer
him, just continue on with Keith. Make the
discussions short with Platt. Agree to disagree and
then move on. This is basic social level conduct, is
it not?
[Ian]
> Yes and No Marsha, I cannot let you tar Arlo with
> the same brush as
> Platt. It's a matter of intellectual honesty - one
> has it, the other
> doesn't - now that IS worth fighting for.
Soooo, who's got the best intellectual honesty!!
Let's have a contest! Who is evil and who is immoral?
Let's all say these hundred-million times and surely
our point will get across!!!
[Ian]
> (And the point is so far as I can see Platt is in an
> intellectual
> dishonesty minority of one ... there are plenty of
> people here I can
> disagree with ... but none other I would call
> "liar".)
Yet, some get wrapped around Platt's discussion.
With plenty of others, then plenty of other
discussions can happen, but the focus is always back
to Platt. Take responsibility. I am. I'm bringing
up this whole meatgrinder chop chop to shut this
thread down. Ooooh, yes, I have an agenda, a motive,
dare I try something I want to do. Dare I put into
action what others believe needs to happen. We don't
want to discuss with Platt, but we do - so I'm wormin'
this contradiction.
a little, little, tiny, tiny bit foggy still,
SA
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