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You both win a prize for writing the only mails of the last fourtnight that I 
didn't cause me to fly into a range and abortively hover my cursor over the 
"cancel subscription" button.


Hi David, Hi Ham

Do you think that this re-reading of Aristotle lends weight to Strawson's straw 
man contention?

Ham:
"What he wants to suggest is 
that Dynamic Quality is the SOURCE of Change.  But there is no equivalent 
definition for Static Quality as a "source" or "fulfillment" of DQ, and such 
a notion is illogical and empirically untrue"


Jos:
Can you explain this criticism a little further please, my feeling is that 
you're critisising a mis-statement of Pirsig. Can you convince me otherwise?
 
I think Pirsig would say that "change" is a synonym for DQ. One doesn't "cause" 
the other, both are analogies for the same underlying immutabale commodity. 
SQ is a static pattern in that dynamic source - it's not an effect, it just 
"is" and logic has no bearing on a system without ascribed causes and effects.

The negation stuff, is right of course, but per arguments of yore, has nothing 
to do with man in particular, as IMO the requisiste awareness that "creates" 
(wrong word - I mean something closer to "is related to") the dichotomy 
described, is yet another anaology for the same source comodity mentioned above 
and is thus "present in" all things.  





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