Hello all,

This is my first note to the group. Please forgive me if you feel that this post is 
not as focused as you're used to. I'm hoping that putting this out - warts and all - 
will help me to feel my way to contributions that will improve in quality over time. 
Confession: Although I have read ZMM many, many times, I've only read Lila once - a 
while back. Because I've discovered this discussion though, I plan to revisit it...

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"Explain why the Dynamic is more moral than the static. We cannot leave this hanging. 
For example, we could grade morality, ala Ken Wilbur, based upon the degree of pattern 
as a whole and as a part. The problem here is that this is not just adding to the MOQ, 
it is CHANGING it. However, it solves LOTS of problems!"
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My sense is that is that these qualities are dependent on an approach to interaction 
(is light a particle or a wave?). As I view the water fountain from which I'm about to 
take a drink I notice both the static nature of its parabolic shape as it reaches up 
to my lips, and the dynamism of the water flow. For the purposes of this note, I take 
morality to mean: "Of or concerned with the judgment of the goodness or badness of 
human action and character". In short: the human moving towards arete or away from 
arete.

Although various components/levels include the biological, intellectual, social, etc., 
my aim is to the person - the human individual - which to me, like the water fountain, 
is defined by both static and dynamic qualities. The person to me, when viewed through 
my 'static lens' is not intellect independent of his or her emotional or 'reptilian' 
aspects. The person's wholeness is defined by the balance of all of these aspects. The 
'wholeness' of the person is made up of parts which come together to create that 
wholeness, but the person is also a part in relationship to a 'super-setted' whole 
(such as society). 

I mention this because this is where I take out my surgical laser and carve out the 
individual human being in (temporary) isolation in order to respond to discussion of 
morality. In other words, when I discuss morality, I frame it as an individual. I am 
not a society or Gaia. (Actually, that's not true, I am a society - a society of that 
within me - but what I mean is a society of which I am a part). When I look out to 
greater society to discuss the morality of a pattern of existence that is greater than 
myself, I will always tend to view it from my individual frame of reference. To me, a 
society that best respects individual humans is a higher quality society than one that 
doesn't. 

Given the limitation of my frame of reference, like the scientist above, I can now 
look at a person as either a 'particle' (static) or a 'wave' (dynamic):

Person as particle (Static): Viewed as a 'chunk', it seems to me that the moral 'duty' 
of each person is to be as excellent as they can be as individuals. It's that simple. 
The buck stops here.

Person as wave (Dynamic): Viewed as a pattern in the larger continuum, it seems that 
my duty should include consideration of the larger continuum - as a part of the 
dynamic flow of existence. I can see that, like swirling conical eddies in a river, my 
(chunked) individualism is really an illusion. 

My sense is that although humans are both dynamic and static, the Dynamic view is more 
"real", a closer description of what humans really are.

1. What is moral = what is good = being human
2. Two aspects of being human include:
    a) Being discrete (static, particle, digital)
    b) Being part of a flow (dynamic, wave, analogue)
3. Therefore, being moral encompasses both, but...
4. Because dynamic is more "real", dynamic quality is more 'moral'
 
Cheers

Bill




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