Marco and Foci.

19 Oct you wrote:

> Your words meet my fears, Bobby. The social level is invading the
> intellect. Market is the current weapon: today they don't burn the
> books, they buy writers and readers.

I will just zoom in on this small fragment of your impressive post 
Marco. As I see it Intellect can't be "invaded" by Social values - 
they are fire and water - but an intellect-influenced culture (or 
"country") can return to a more social influenced status - if need 
be, because it is a more solid latch.

The examples of "buying writers and readers" are examples of how 
social roots are visible wherever one digs, but presents no invasion -
 except disappointing those who want everything to be purely  
"objective" (Intellect's chief value). See how the SOL idea is proved 
over and over again!    

One other thing: The topic of this month reflects the belief that 
modern (western) countries are good SOCIAL patterns, but can be 
improved. Carrying the analogy a step down; that a mammal is a 
better BIOLOGICAL pattern than an amoeba. This is not so IMO, 
they are more evolved ...evolved enough to become carriers of the 
next value level, and my idea is that by now Intellect has evolved far 
enough to support a new level. 

Look, it's always the higher level that judges the lower one in the 
light of its own values, so it is Intellect that judges societies and 
says that democracy is good, but not good enough ...and brings up 
all those examples of its corruption. This demonstrates of how 
terribly hard it is to tear loose from the Intellect ..and adopt the 
Quality p.o.v.

The human body is biological and yet the carrier of social value; the 
society is social and yet the carrier of intellectual value. Intellectual 
value has by now evolved far enough to spawn something that can't 
be contained. This tentative new value will necessarily be 
"intellectual" and yet transcend Intellect .....  for the first time 
Intellect is judged.

And Intellect is furious, it wants the Quality idea to be a mere 
intellectual pattern - as a matter of fact NOTHING can be anything 
than an intellectual patter to Intellect, no value level recognizes any 
value level above itself. If it succeeds the MOQ is disarmed, but I 
don't have the least worry. This discussion will end and Pirsig's 
work will recede into obscurity, but the seed is sown. Things won't 
be the same ever. 

Thanks for reading
Bo
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