Hi Richard, Roger, MF

Richard:
> I would love to see a more detailed statement of this month's topic


The topic originates from a condensation of many "MOQ problems", about Space
and/or Time.   One MOQ problem (about time) is mine. It has been already
discussed, but I'm not still convinced.


Here it is: the MOQ originates from the question: "Which comes first?". Does
this  "First" refer to time or to a logical primacy?

In the past Roger concluded:

"the slip-sorting method refers not to time, but to metaphysical or logical
primacy"

I ask:

a) Is there agreement about Rog's conclusion?
b) If yes, what does it mean "logical primacy"?
c) Isn't time, after all, a concept, a logical construct ?

bye
Marco


" I'm where the past and the future come together, the dividing line between
history and possibility, the point where what happens, happens and what changes,
changes.

" I seem to pass and return in the blink of an eye, yet in truth I stay while
all else passes. The time on either side of me, what you call the past and the
future, are simply memory and imagination. They are fleeting. I stay. Past and
future only occur in me, the present moment.

" What you call time is your mind observing me change. Paradoxically, I never
change at all: all you have to do is look up from this page and there I am, the
same as I was yesterday, still within you and all about you, still being what I
am--existence itself.

(Platt Holden, Say Hello to Now)



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