Hi Japp, Rick, and all,

On 14 Aug 2004 at 11:51, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:

On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 02:18:06 -0400 Valence wrote:
: Hello Pi, David M., and the other 8 people who voted for this topic
: but haven't said a word yet:

msh says:
Sorry Rick.  I've been over in the MD yard, playing kick the can with 
a bunch of rowdy tribalist-theists.  It's hot dusty work.

japp:
I think that things like copyrights and patents are about politics 
and money, and thus can be found at the social level. Also I see that 
the "hacker world" has a tremendous energy on both social and 
intellectual levels, I think this can be related to DQ very easily. 

msh says:
I agree completely.  I notice that many in this thread are pushing 
the argument that it's necessary to protect "intellectual property" 
because we'll lose the input of all the "great thinkers" if we don't 
allow them to profit from the dissemination of their ideas or 
products.

This is of course nonsense.  The only "great thinkers" you'll lose 
are those wo are more interested in making money than in original 
thought and creativity, which goes a long way to separating the 
"great" from the "thinkers" as part of their self-description, IMO.

For starters, compare Salk's refusal to patent his polio vaccine with 
today's pharm companies and their near-genocidal insistence on 
enforcing patents for AIDS drugs, even in foreign countries, where 
they try to prevent development of far less expensive generic 
equivalents.

Years ago, at a college tavern, I got into it with a gorgeous pre-med 
student who insisted that the high salaries commanded by doctors were 
necessary to insure excellent medical care.  She said, "What do you 
think would happen if doctors were limited in the amount of money 
they could earn in their practice?"  I thought long and hard before 
answering, as this was a party, and she was beautiful, and it was 
approaching closing time.  But my own sense of self-righteousness got 
the better of me and I said "You'd have doctors who chose their 
professions because they wanted to make a moral contribution to 
humanity, which is to say for the right reason."  Anyway, she left 
with the bartender.

There's an analogy here somewhere, but I'm too tired to flesh it out.

Best to all,
Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
-- 
InfoPro Consulting - The Professional Information Processors
Custom Software Solutions for Windows, PDAs, and the Web Since 1983
Web Site: http://www.infoproconsulting.com


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everything."  -- Henri Poincare'




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