Hello Focus Group, Bo, speaking about my post on oppositions said: <<(if i get you right) something a fifth level will "transcend".>> Yes, you are "getting me right", but I discouraged using the word "transcend" as when I wrote: "L5 will not transcend or disable opposition. It will simply be a level that lifts the blinders off of our view. It will see and feel the VALUE OF OPPOSITION. Thus making experience par excellent. We will not experience opposing forces simultaneously. Although, we will be able to realize the value of opposition as a partner of experience, rather than a foe," This discouragement of the word "transcend" is generally because people seem to equate the word "transcend" with "escape of" (the subject). And, we would have people say things like, "the emotional level "frees itself" from the intellectual" just as in saying " the intellectual level "frees itself" from the society level". And these statements are not wrong; they are just misleading a little for some, because many understand freedom to be destructive in the sense that the new is victorious over the old. With "victory" implying the eradication of the former level or view (of its enemy, if you will) leaving it no longer viable or "without value". But as Pirsig readers we should all know that everything has value and the levels are newly created views. Which is why I use the word "visualization" in my last post on Oct. 17 when I stated: "L5 will be a jump in knowledge and enhanced experience resulting from an unceasingly visualization that life requires a marriage of opposition between enemies or forces, for that which is un-reconcilable between them is that which also keeps them eternally linked.". And so as long as, "transcend" is not an "escape from something" and "victory" is not "freedom from something", then you keep my meaning in its context. Bo, speaking of me, <<So,Todd, you seemingly are a S/O- intellect adherer.>> I have only been a subscriber of MOQ Focus since mid-Sept. 99. So I haven't really been around long enough to fully get your SOLAQI idea, but based on last month, I am seemingly in basic agreement with your S/O- intellect thoughts. Time and participation shall tell. <<SOM enabling intellect". Why not see it as Q-intellect itself and do away with all complications?>> Again, I believe that we are in full agreement here. I am just a little less indoctrinated. MORE TO COME I shall try to respond later to Keith and hopefully I will have time to articulate how a visualization of the VALUE OF OPPOSITION will also have a constraint facet for intellect as it builds its structure. As suspected, I am not really speaking of emotions in my L5 candidate despite the loose title I gave it. Let's try to avoid word-traps, even though they are sometimes fun, they are futile progress. Peace, Todd MOQ.org - http://www.moq.org
