I think that there it is easier for me to approach these questions as 
free-thinking and cultish thinking as a continuum of different types of 
thinking.  It is hard to answer yes/no to this being a cult or classifying 
whether members are "free-thinkers" or "cult members" because the discussions 
seem to be like a roller coaster with its highs and lows.

So I tried to distinguish what the qualitative difference between free-thinking 
and cultish thinking was.and what came to mind was this article on 8/31 onion 
website title " Google announces plan to destroy all information it can't 
index" 
Executives at Google, the rapidly growing online-search company that promises 
to 
"organize the world's information," announced Monday the latest step in their 
expansion effort: a far-reaching plan to destroy all the information it is 
unable to index. "Our users want the world to be as simple, clean, and 
accessible as the Google home page itself," said Google CEO Eric Schmidt at a 
press conference held in their corporate offices. "Soon, it will be."

  I think why this came to mind because I think that sometimes in discussions 
there is an attempt to limit information /vocabulary.     I think this comes 
from the same sentiment in the article above "Our users want the world to be as 
simple, clean, and accessible ,"   There is something very appealing about the 
simplicity/elegance of the MoQ but I think that DQ must involve some messiness. 
When you close off information/vocabulary in the discussions you are closing 
the 
door on DQ.

As for the relation of devotion to free thinking I think being devoted Pirsig 
has increased my freethinking.  I think devotion can lead to freethinking if it 
is devotion to high quality values.  His thinking struck me as high quality and 
so trying to see things through his perspective has helped evolved my 
perspective.  Not all devotion leads to free thinking of course..e.g. a)if you 
don't recognize that these books are from Pirsig's perspective and are works of 
art b)  if you are devoted to an author for social (his fame) or biological 
reasons



 Erin





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