Hey all,

Greeting!

There's a freeware PAST (Paleonological Statistics) developed by Oyvind
Hammer.  It's worth an evaluation.  What do you think?


Cesar

*/morphmet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:

    [Sorry for the delay in posting this and the previous message, but I
    was
    unexpectedly trapped out of town and away from the internet for
    nearly a
    week. - the Moderator (dslice)]

    Many curve digitization packages (e.g., tpsDIG, ImagePro Plus) give
    you the
    ability to sample curves with a fixed number of equally spaced (or
    quasi-equally spaced) semi-landmark points. The x,y -> ext. phi
    program in
    my extended eigenshape package indeed assumes you have collected
    your data
    in this format. I can think of a few obvious workarounds and, if
    there is a
    need for the capability of reading in outline strings of different
    lengths
    in that program, I'd be happy to add it. Given the capabilities of
    tpsDIG,
    however, it would seem the best thing to do is collect the data in the
    expected format to being with.

    Please contact me offline if you need instructions has to how to
    make tpsDIG
    collect outline strings of equal lengths.

    Norm MacLeod


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    On 23/2/06 20:24, "morphmet" wrote:

     > Dear All,
     >
     > My name is Gordon Smith, a PhD student at Sheffield University.
     > my e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
     >
     > My query is about open outlines and extended eigenshape analysis.
     > I have what amounts to 2D open outlines, for a number of
    individuals, as
     > X,Y coordinate data. After my minimal literature review, I
    thought that
     > the best way to analyse this data would be with extended eigenshape
     > analysis using the Norman Macleod software from the Stony Brook
    website.
     >
     > However, after playing with the software and further reading it
    seems that
     > the number of X,Y coordinates for each open outline should be the
    same for
     > every individual in the comparison.
     > This is not the case for my dataset. I have found a number of
    software
     > packages that appear would calculate an equal number of X,Y
    coordinates
     > per open outline from image data such as bitmaps, jpegs, etc. but
    not from
     > collected X,Y data.
     >
     > So I have two questions really, Firstly is my understanding
    correct and
> that to be able to compare individuals will they all require an equal
     > number of X,Y coordinates along the open outline.?
     > Secondly, If this is correct can anybody suggest how I make my
    current X,Y
     > coordinate data compatible with the analysis.?
     >
     > I am very new to the world of morphometrics, and would welcome
    any and all
     > help,
     > as to key papers, books etc.
     >
     > Please reply if any further information would be helpful to
    answer this
     > query.
     >
     > Many Thanks
     > Gordon.
     >
     > e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
     >
     >
     >




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