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Subject: RE: variance in shape
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 07:14:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: F. James Rohlf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Doing that does not really measure the amount of variance. It is a measure of variance among relative to variance within the a priori defined groups.

It would be better to first perform a GPA of all specimens at once so as to project them all into a common tangent space. You can then use standard methods to compare variation in the two groups (e.g., compare determinants, trace, or largest root of their covariance matrices).

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F. James Rohlf, Distinguished Professor
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Subject: variance in shape
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 16:41:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chris Harrod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Dear all out there in morpholand.

I want to examine variance in shape between fish found in allopatry and
those found in sympatry with a putative competitor.

Can I simply compare the variance in DF/CVA scores (based on the normal
landmark analyses) between different populations, or am I being
horribly
simplistic?

thanks in advance

Chris

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