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Subject: Re: How to eliminate the effect of sexual dimorphism?
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 11:01:48 -0500
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]

Dear Tina!

I would like to draw your attention to our recent paper, in which we adressed "the problem" of sexual dimorphism AND population/species divergence in cichlid fishes on a GM-basis. Your dataset sounds very much like what we had and a (graphical) MANOVA with corresponding shape decomposition could show you the interesting differences of between-species versus between-sex variation in shape. I agree with some others who have already responded to your question that solely eliminating the effect of sex would erase an important part of natural/sexual selection patterns from your study. Instead, I suggest that you should have a
look at the population- AND sex-specific shape variation.

http://www.frontiersinzoology.com/content/pdf/1742-9994-7-4.pdf

Hope it helps
Juergen

On 5 Mar 2011 at 13:53, morphmet wrote:



-------- Original Message --------
Subject:        How to eliminate the effect of sexual dimorphism?
Date:   Thu, 3 Mar 2011 04:03:49 -0500
From:   tina klenovsek <[email protected]>
To:     [email protected]



Dear All!
I hope you can help me!
The thing is that I would like to compare mandibles of five
populations
of two different mammal species. The problem is I also have sexual
dimorphism both in shape and size and small samples. Therefore I
was
thinking if I could somehow eliminate the part of variation that is
the
effect of gender and in subsequent analysis of phylogeny use pooled
sexes.
I know how to get the 'allometry-free' shape data and do the test
for
common slopes. But what about sexual dimorphism? Is it possible?
Thank you in advance!
Tina Klenovsek
Faculty of natural sciences and mathematics
University of Maribor
Slovenia




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University of Vienna
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