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Subject: Re: Modularity: Evaluate hypothesis in MorphoJ
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:36:32 +0000
From: hmi hmi <hm...@hotmail.com>
To: <morphmet_modera...@morphometrics.org>


Dear Dr,

Thank you for the suggestions. Will trim it to make it more manageable.

Best regards,
Helmi

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From: "morphmet" <morphmet_modera...@morphometrics.org>
To: morphmet <morphmet@morphometrics.org>
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2012 21:09:00 -0000
Subject: Re: Modularity: Evaluate hypothesis in MorphoJ



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Subject: Re: Modularity: Evaluate hypothesis in MorphoJ
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 03:54:42 -0500
From: Chris Klingenberg <c...@manchester.ac.uk>
Reply-To: c...@manchester.ac.uk
Organization: University of Manchester
To: morphmet@morphometrics.org

Dear Helmi

Hmm, I can only guess what makes your computer grind away like this, but
here is what I suspect.

You start with 49 landmarks and your hypothesis divides them into two
modules of 18 and 49. There are a lot of ways of doing that (the
combinatorial calculator on the web that comes up first on Google says
that there are something like 1.155E13 possiblities: 11.55 trillion!).

So if you choose to do the complete enumeration of all possible
partition, your computer will be busy for a long time! OK, the
restriction to contiguous partitions reduces the possible number of
allowed partitions, but that comes with some extra computational effort.

The message is: use a smaller number of partitions. For example, start
with the default of 10,000 and see how long it takes. Then maybe try
with 100,000 or a million (which will take about 10 or 100 times as
long) -- almost surely, the distributions of RV coefficients will be
very similar.

I hope this is helpful.

Best wishes,
Chris



On 2/7/2012 9:57 PM, morphmet wrote:
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Modularity: Evaluate hypothesis in MorphoJ
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 05:28:08 -0500
> From: hmi hmi <hm...@hotmail.com>
> To: morphomet morphometrics.org <morphmet@morphometrics.org>
>
>
>
> Dear Morphometricans,
>
> I am trying the modularity: evaluate hypothesis function following the
> user guide in MorphoJ (1.03d and 1.04a) on two separate Windows 7-64bit
> machines (core-i5 8gb ram and core2 quad 8gb ram-both with 4 CPU cores)
> for both 2D and 3D data. Both have the 32-bit java console installed.
> The calculations work well for 2D data (25 landmarks) with few seconds
> lag. The characteristics of the 3D data are:
>
> 49 landmarks (80 specimens) with two partitions, where 18 landmarks are
> placed in the second partition. The contiguous partitions only box
> ticked and full enumeration of partitions selected. The 49 landmarks
> originated from a 200 landmark (80 specimens) morphoJ file.
>
> After selecting this operation, I notice the total CPU usage of the
> javaw.exe*32.exe in the task manager goes up to 25% and stays at 25% for
> one modularity operation. So if I made another modularity test, the CPU
> usage will be 50%. I do not see anything come out in the "Results" and
> "Graphics" tab of MorphoJ. When I move the mouse cursor on MorphoJ, it
> does show MorphoJ busy calculating the data. I left the computer on
> overnight, I see the CPU usage is still 25% with MorphoJ busy with the
> calculations. I've tried different analyis in MorphoJ while waiting for
> the modularity test and MorphoJ can work on other data and the output is
> generated after few seconds lag which shows that the software is not
> frozen. However, no analysis done after the modularity test could be
> save as the modularity test itself is not completed. I've also tried
> increasing CPU usage process priority to high and realtime but that did
> not improve the processing time. There does not seem to be any
> difference in the processing time regardless of type of CPU usage. The
> ram usage is not affected and stays about 142 mb.
>
> Is there something wrong with my data? Does anyone know how to make the
> calculations faster?
>
> Grateful for the help.
>
> Regards,
> Helmi Pritam
> University of Dundee
>

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