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Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012
14:14:44 -0800
From: morphmet_modera...@morphometrics.org
Reply-To: morphmet_modera...@morphometrics.org
Subject: RE: PCA and
elliptical confidence
To: morphmet@morphometrics.org
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James Rohlf"
Date: Fri, 30 Nov
2012 12:59:49 -0500
From: "F. James Rohlf"
Reply-To: ro...@life.bio.sunysb.edu
Subject: RE: PCA and elliptical confidence
To:
morphmet@morphometrics.org
A confidence region
shows the uncertainty for the estimate of the mean. It does not imply that
individuals from the groups can be distinguished. With very large sample sizes
the confidence regions will be very small but even if they do not overlap the
scatter of individual observations may broadly overlap. Perhaps you should
compute equal-frequency ellipses – their purpose is to show the range of
dispersion of individuals. The different sizes of these will give you
information about differences in sample variances.
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To: morphmet@morphometrics.org
Subject: PCA
and elliptical confidence
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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:19:37 -0500
From: dan dkin
Reply-To: dan dkin
Subject: PCA and elliptical confidence
To: morphmet@morphometrics.org
Hi,
When I run a PCA and applying elliptical confidence I can
distinguish groups. The ellipses I get are in different radiuses and almost do
not overlap. Therefore, except the difference of the groups does the ellipse
shape tell something (e.g., variance in the groups, etc).
Any
explanation, paper or etc will be welcome.
Thank
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