----- Forwarded message from Wendy Den Boer <wendy.denb...@geo.uu.se> -----
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 06:12:40 -0400
From: Wendy Den Boer <wendy.denb...@geo.uu.se>
Reply-To: Wendy Den Boer <wendy.denb...@geo.uu.se>
Subject: Re: combining two data set
To: morphmet@morphometrics.org
Dear Eric,
Thank-you so much, this really helped me out.
Cheers,
Wendy den Boer
Quoting morphmet_modera...@morphometrics.org:
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> ----- Forwarded message from Eric Delson <eric.del...@lehman.cuny.edu> -----
>
> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 23:41:52 -0400
> From: Eric Delson <eric.del...@lehman.cuny.edu>
> Reply-To: Eric Delson <eric.del...@lehman.cuny.edu>
> Subject: Re: combining two data set
> To: morphmet@morphometrics.org
>
> If you have a dorsal and a ventral set of landmarks, an alternative
> approach is to combine them first into a unified object using DVLR, a
> program we devised for exactly this purpose. Look at
> http://pages.nycep.org/nmg/programs.html
> where you can find the program and detailed instructions. Note that a
> .prn file is just an excel version of a .txt file. You use any simple
> text editor to work with these, such as the freeware EditPadLite.
> Eric Delson
>
> At 09:53 PM 3/26/2013 Tuesday, you wrote:
>> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 07:12:52 -0400
>> From: andrea cardini <alcard...@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: andrea cardini <alcard...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: combining two data set
>> To: morphmet@morphometrics.org
>>
>> Dear Wendy,
>> There's a good chance that you may find the
>> answer to your question in this paper:
>> http://www.public.iastate.edu/~dcadams/PDFPubs/1999-Adams-EER.pdf
>>
>> I have the suspicion that in your case appending
>> the shape variables might be the option. Easy to
>> do in xls etc. The appended matrices will
>> probably have to be analysed in another software
>> (PAST, R or any commercial stats soft.). The
>> visualization will have to be done for each
>> separate structure, however, if you use this method.
>>
>> Linking in MorphoJ, as far as I know, has a
>> different meaning and it is in the context of the
>> PLS or similar analyses (for instance, if I aim
>> to measure the covariation between the mandible
>> and cranium, that might be the analysis). If
>> that's you purpose, it's even easier (doable in
>> MorphoJ, TPSPLS and probably PAST).
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Andrea
>>
>> At 06:23 26/03/2013, you wrote:
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>> >----- Forwarded message from Wendy Den Boer <wendy.denb...@geo.uu.se> -----
>> >
>> > Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 07:31:42 -0400
>> > From: Wendy Den Boer <wendy.denb...@geo.uu.se>
>> > Reply-To: Wendy Den Boer <wendy.denb...@geo.uu.se>
>> > Subject: combining two data set
>> > To: morphmet@morphometrics.org
>> >
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >I have two data sets, one of several specimens with their landmark
>> >values in lateral view, and then the exact same specimens but then
>> >with their landmark values in dorsal view. These landmarks were
>> >obtained in tpsDIG.
>> >
>> >I don't want to compare the dorsal and lateral views of these
>> >specimens to one another but I want to combine them. Hence, how do I
>> >manipulate tpsRELW so that it doesn't treat the dorsal and ventral as
>> >separate individuals, but uses both the ventral and dorsal landmark
>> >values to produce one individual output for each specimen? Hope this
>> >makes sense. If it isn't possible to do this in tpsRELW would I have
>> >to get the mean values of the x coordinates of the dorsal and lateral
>> >views, and the mean values of the y coordinates of the dorsal and
>> >lateral view of each specimen in order to do this?
>> >If anyone knows how to do this in MorphoJ and Past that would be great
>> >as well. I know there is a link data-sets option in MorphoJ that
>> >requires the identifiers in the two data-sets to be the same or that
>> >they match. However, when I try to link the two data-sets nothing
>> >seems to happen, unless I'm missing the obvious somehow. Sorry, if I am.
>> >
>> >Many Thanks,
>> >
>> >Wendy den Boe
>
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