Re: Multivariate phylogenetic signal analysis

Sun, 07 Jul 2013 06:05:15 -0700


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Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 09:42:50 -0400
From: "Fabio de A. Machado" <macfa...@gmail.com>
Reply-To: "Fabio de A. Machado" <macfa...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Multivariate phylogenetic signal analysis
To: morphmet@morphometrics.org

The following article describes a model to estimate phylogenetic signal in multivariate data

Zheng, Li, et al. "New multivariate tests for phylogenetic signal and trait correlations applied to ecophysiological phenotypes of nine Manglietia species." Functional Ecology 23.6 (2009): 1059-1069.
http://www.stat.wisc.edu/~larget/botany940/Zheng_etal2009.pdf

Jarrod Hadfield said on phylo-sig that his MCMCglmm package can fit this kind of model, but I was unable to figure out how exactly. If anyone managed that, it would be good to know.

best,

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Laboratório de Evolução de Mamíferos 
Departamento de Genética e Biologia Evolutiva
Universidade de São Paulo
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On 06/07/2013, at 04:11, morphmet_modera...@morphometrics.org wrote:


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    Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 07:44:33 -0400
     From: andrea cardini <alcard...@gmail.com>
     Reply-To: andrea cardini <alcard...@gmail.com>
     Subject: Re: Multivariate phylogenetic signal analysis
     To: morphmet@morphometrics.org, morphmet@morphometrics.org

I suggest also to give a look at the 2013 review
on comparative methods by Leandro and probably
especially the bit on model-based approaches and
dimensionality:
http://www.italian-journal-of-mammalogy.it/article/view/6282/pdf_6282
Cheers

Andrea

At 12:52 05/07/2013, morphmet_modera...@morphometrics.org wrote:

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Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 06:00:39 -0400
From: Adrien Perrard <perr...@mnhn.fr>
Reply-To: Adrien Perrard <perr...@mnhn.fr>
Subject: Re: Multivariate phylogenetic signal analysis
To: morphmet@morphometrics.org

Hi Mariana,
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To test for a phylogenetic signal on
multivariate data, you can use the permutation
test described in Klingenberg & Gidaszewski
2010. This test can be computed with the free
software MorphoJ or the R package "geomorph".Â
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Best,
Adrien


2013/7/4
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Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 18:42:54 -0400
From: Mariana Viglino
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Reply-To: Mariana Viglino
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Subject: Multivariate phylogenetic signal analysis
To:
"<mailto:morphmet@morphometrics.org>morphmet@morphometrics.org"
<<mailto:morphmet@morphometrics.org>morphmet@morphometrics.org>

Hi!
I am studying the vertebral column of dolphins,
focusing on the morphological variation of
vertebrae. I have a set of variables that
represent form change. I am looking for a test
that allows me to calculate phylogenetic signal
in a multivariate form, i.e. a phylogenetic
signal for the whole set of variables. Some
colleagues have recommended me Blomberg’s K
(Blomberg et al. 2003) and orthonormal
decomposition (Ollier et al. 2006), but as far
as I know, they are univariate analysis. Can
anyone recommend me such analysis? Thank you in advance!



Mariana Viglino
División Mastozoología
Museo Argentino de Ciencias Naturales "Bernardino Rivadavia"
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Muséum National d'Histoire Naturelle
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Dr. Andrea Cardini
Researcher in Animal Biology
Dipartimento di Scienze Chimiche e Geologiche,
Università di Modena e Reggio Emilia, l.go S. Eufemia 19, 41121 Modena, Italy

Honorary Fellow
Centre for Anatomical and Human Sciences
University of Hull, Cottingham Road, Hull, HU6 7RX, UK
University of York, Heslington, York YO10 5DD, UK

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Centre for Forensic Science , The University of Western Australia
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Editorial board for:
Zoomorphology:
http://www.springer.com/life+sciences/animal+sciences/journal/435
Journal of Zoological Systematics and
Evolutionary Research: http://www.wiley.com/bw/journal.asp?ref=0947-5745&site=1
Hystrix, the Italian Journal of
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