----- Forwarded message from Javier Santos ----- Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 05:45:57 -0400 From: Javier Santos Reply-To: Javier Santos Subject: RE: corresponding landmarks for pollinators and plants To: Morphmet
Hello Jenny, I find very interesting your study. May I make a suggestion on how to proceed with your experimental setup. Maybe you could use semilandmarks to make the outline shapes of your respective plant and animal structures, and then try to perform a two-block PLS to see the covariation between both landmark configurations. I do not know the exact hypothesis of your research, but I think this would be a good beginning. When doing the latter it might be interesting for you to combine the matching LMs as type1 LMs with your semiLM in the outline shapes. I hope this helps. Kind regards, Javier Santos Santos jssan...@mncn.csic.es PhD student Integrative Biogeography and Global Change Group - Museo Nacional de Ciencias Naturales (MNCN-CSIC) http://www.ibiochange.mncn.csic.es/ Associated Researcher @ Evolutionary Morphology of Vertebrates Lab - Universiteit Gent http://www.fun-morph.ugent.be/ ------------------------- From: morphmet_modera...@morphometrics.org To: morphmet@morphometrics.org Subject: Re: corresponding landmarks for pollinators and plants Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 19:37:17 -0700 ----- Forwarded message from Karl Fetter ----- Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 15:48:21 -0400 From: Karl Fetter Reply-To: Karl Fetter Subject: Re: corresponding landmarks for pollinators and plants To: morphmet@morphometrics.org What are the questions you want to ask? What are the components of shape that you think determine the biology of your system? Is the geometric arrangement of anthers important? Are the flowers asymmetrical? Where does pollination happen? Where are the nectar glands located. What are the 3 landmarks you've considered? Karl On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 3:26 PM, wrote: ----- Forwarded message from morphmet_modera...@morphometrics.org ----- Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 00:52:31 -0700 From: morphmet_modera...@morphometrics.org Reply-To: morphmet_modera...@morphometrics.org Subject: corresponding landmarks for pollinators and plants To: morphmet@morphometrics.org ----- Forwarded message from "Hazlehurst, Jenny A" ----- Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:18:49 -0400 From: "Hazlehurst, Jenny A" Reply-To: "Hazlehurst, Jenny A" Subject: corresponding landmarks for pollinators and plants To: "morphmet@morphometrics.org" Hi there, I am trying to devise a plan to conduct an analysis of match between hummingbird bill shape and pollinated flower shape using a landmark-based analysis. I have been able to identify 3 landmarks that match between flowers and birds, but as this is not enough to generate principal warps or a PCA I'm not sure how to proceed. I'm new to this and could use some general pointers on how to make this unusual comparison. Thanks! Reply to: jhazl...@tulane.edu ----- End forwarded message ----- ----- End forwarded message ----- ----- End forwarded message ----- ----- End forwarded message -----