----- Forwarded message from Javier Santos  -----

     Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 05:45:57 -0400
      From: Javier Santos
      Reply-To: Javier Santos
      Subject: RE: corresponding landmarks for pollinators and plants
      To: Morphmet

Hello Jenny,
 
I find very interesting your study. May I make a suggestion on how to proceed 
with your experimental setup. Maybe you could use semilandmarks to make the 
outline shapes of your respective plant and animal structures, and then try to 
perform a two-block PLS to see the covariation between both landmark 
configurations. I do not know the exact hypothesis of your research, but I 
think this would be a good beginning.  When doing the latter it might be 
interesting for you to combine the matching LMs as type1 LMs with your semiLM 
in the outline shapes. I hope this helps.
 
 
Kind regards,
 
Javier Santos Santos
  jssan...@mncn.csic.es

PhD student

Integrative Biogeography and Global Change Group
  - Museo Nacional de Ciencias Naturales (MNCN-CSIC)
  http://www.ibiochange.mncn.csic.es/

Associated Researcher @ Evolutionary Morphology of Vertebrates Lab
  - Universiteit Gent
  http://www.fun-morph.ugent.be/
 

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From: morphmet_modera...@morphometrics.org
To: morphmet@morphometrics.org
Subject: Re: corresponding landmarks for pollinators and plants
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 19:37:17 -0700

----- Forwarded message from Karl Fetter  -----

     Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 15:48:21 -0400
      From: Karl Fetter
Reply-To: Karl Fetter
      Subject: Re: corresponding landmarks for pollinators and plants
      To: morphmet@morphometrics.org

What are the questions you want to ask? What are the components of shape that 
you think determine the biology of your system? Is the geometric arrangement of 
anthers important? Are the flowers asymmetrical? Where does pollination happen? 
Where are the nectar glands located.

What are the 3 landmarks you've considered?

Karl

On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 3:26 PM,   wrote:

----- Forwarded message from morphmet_modera...@morphometrics.org -----

Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 00:52:31 -0700
      From: morphmet_modera...@morphometrics.org
Reply-To: morphmet_modera...@morphometrics.org
      Subject: corresponding landmarks for pollinators and plants
      To: morphmet@morphometrics.org

----- Forwarded message from "Hazlehurst, Jenny A"  -----

     Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:18:49 -0400
      From: "Hazlehurst, Jenny A"
Reply-To: "Hazlehurst, Jenny A"
      Subject: corresponding landmarks for pollinators and plants
      To: "morphmet@morphometrics.org"

Hi there, I am trying to devise a plan to conduct an analysis of match between 
hummingbird bill shape and pollinated flower shape using a landmark-based 
analysis. I have been able to identify 3 landmarks that match between flowers 
and birds, but as this is not enough to generate principal warps or a PCA I'm 
not sure how to proceed. I'm new to this and could use some general pointers on 
how to make this unusual comparison. 

Thanks! 

Reply to: jhazl...@tulane.edu

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