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Subject: Re: Image rotation data loss
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 03:38:32 -0400
From: Dennis E. Slice <dsl...@morphometrics.org>
To: morphmet@morphometrics.org

First guess would be your landmarks are out of order on one or more
specimens. You can check this by creating a set of links in tpsUtil and
plotting the data showing the links. And/or, in tps, plot the data
showing points and vectors. -ds

On 6/29/14, 12:27 AM, morphmet_modera...@morphometrics.org wrote:

Hello all,

I'm trying to digitize photos in tpsDig for a geometric morphometrics
study on Notropis fishes. In order to test for digitization error I've
copied the first fish photo I took 10 times and digitized each one onto
the same TPS file (made in tpsUtil). I then performed a relative warps
analysis in tpsRelw and performed a Procruste's superimposition in R
(package geomorph) to glance and see if any landmarks varied
significantly. My results show very drastic variation in landmark
placement, with dots all over the place in the GPA plot. I know my
landmark placement isn't that bad, so I think it might have something to
do with data loss. When I photographed the specimen the fish was
flipped, so I had to rotate and flip it to turn it rightside up before
digitization. Is it possible that rotating the photo resulted in data
loss and therefore digitization error? The TPS file had the landmark
coordinates for each specimen pretty close together (about normal
landmark placement error), but the GPA and relative warps plots showed
drastic variance. I've attached the GPA plot to show what I mean. The
landmarks are supposed to go around the entire fish. Also let me know if
you have any other ideas for why there might be crazy variance.

Best,


Connor
connorfre...@utexas.edu <mailto:connorfre...@utexas.edu>



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